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A Fatal Crash, Sexting and Light Rail Taxes: Feedback Friday

The most thoughtful, moving, controversial or just plain funny comments from around the west metro between Nov. 30 and Dec. 6.

Each week, Patch users contribute numerous insights, opinions and observations. The following is a collection of the most thoughtful, moving, controversial or just plain funny comments that appeared on Patch sites in Eden Prairie, Edina, Golden Valley, Hopkins, Minnetonka, Richfield, Shakopee, Plymouth, St. Louis Park and St. Michael. Click on the headline to read the full story and join in the conversation.

(The comments below are not meant to reflect the opinions of Patch or its staff.)

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Bottineau Survey Shows Light Rail Support

Members from the Minneapolis Building and Construction Trades Council initiated an unscientific survey of Golden Valley residents to learn more about local feelings for Bottineau.

Here's what Patch user Bill Wilcox had to say about the survey:

The survey means nothing. The group that funded it even admits that it's not scientific, and the group has an obvious bias. Taking this to actually be a representative sample of Golden Valley residents' opinions makes as much sense as taking a poll from Foxnews.com or MSNBC.com and pretending that it's representative of the general population. 

Sexting Scandal Hits Edina's Middle Schools

A Valley View Middle School student was apparently the victim of some unwanted attention from her classmates after a sexting incident swept through both of Edina's middle schools earlier this month.

Susan Brott, director of communications and community engagement with Edina Public Schools, confirmed the parent of a Valley View student called the school around Nov. 13 with concerns about an inappropriate message her student sent to another student. The parent reportedly said the message had been forwarded to other students and was possibly posted online.

Reader David F said he would have liked to have seen the school district use the incident as a chance to educate students on the dangers of technology:

It is unfortunate that the Edina schools didn't use this as a 'teachable moment' to educate students that there are consequences of making bad decisions with electronic media and social networking. My student at South View middle school did not have any 'educational moment' on this from the school although I did talk to him in very frant terms about this. What was the resolution to this matter? Under state law sexting can be a felony. The schools need to understand this may need the involvement of law enforcement. It would be nice to get a communication from the Edina schools as to the resolution and prevention measures. This is hopefully, but unlikely, a one time incident and should be an 'educational moment' for Edina Public School administrators.

Since the shooting, Wright County Sheriff's Office has been helping Cold Spring and Stearns County law enforcement by covering some patrol shifts. Although the incident happened in Stearns County, it hit closer to home for St. Michael and Albertville as a caravan of police cars went through the community when escorting Tom Decker's body back to Cold Spring, and as local law enforcement were on their way to his funeral.

Wendy Kokon said:

very sad....

it was an awesome sight on 94 this morning watching all the law enforcement vehicles lined up for miles with their lights on heading up the freeway to attend the funeral. It gave me the chills and brought tears to my eyes. I send prayers to Officer Deckers family, coworkers, community and friends. To all law enforcement.....Thanks for your service!

When Elbows Attack? Police Say Assault Left Lumps the Size of Ping Pong Balls
A St. Louis Park man with previous assault convictions was charged with striking a man repeatedly in the face with his elbows, leaving Ping-Pong ball-sized lumps.

Debra said:

Let's see, an alcoholic with 5 convictions of assault and no telling how many times someone was too afraid to report your physical abuse... James Anker Anderson, sing this song very slowly........ 99 years in jail to go 99 years in jail You take one down and pass HIM around It's 98 years in jail to go.

Holiday Favorites: A List of Beloved Christmas Movies

With the holiday season in full swing, classic favorites such as Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer and It's A Wonderful Life are hitting the airwaves. A Patch contributor listed some of her favorite Christmas movies, which included A Charlie Brown Christmas and Polar Express.

But, Jake Rappe said he values one film above all others: 

There can be only one, it all begins and ends with A Christmas Story.

Man Identified in Fatal Crash with Minnetonka Police Squad Car

The Minnetonka police cruiser was traveling westbound on Excelsior Blvd. on an emergency call, with lights and sirens activated, when a car was broadsided in the intersection of Woodland Road. Sean Kian, 52, died at the scene of the crash.

WR had a sad tale to tell about that night:

I live a few houses from the intersection. I work at home. I watch police and citizens speeding in the area every day. I listen to sirens all day long. I witness the excessive speed at which nearly everyone travels in this area. Every day I think that the excessive speeds are going to kill someone. Last night I heard the sirens and within seconds I heard the "thunk" that ended in a man's death. The were no screeching brakes, just "thunk." There clearly was not even time for anyone to react. I watched as this heinous scene unfolded in my neighbor's front yard through the night. It's time to start issuing speeding tickets and it's time for the police to slow down.

MikeT said this crash raises big concerns:

A serious question has to be raised about the Mtka police policy around high speed non emergency runs. I used to live in the Mtka Mills area and remember hearing police cars w sirens driving unsafe speeds at least a couple times a day on Mtka Blvd. I cant imagine that in all of these instances was there an emergency that justified putting other lives in danger.

Does Light Rail Need Its Own Tax?

Whether an increased sales tax or a new taxing jurisdiction, advocates say a reliable funding stream could insulate transit from political winds.

Matt Flory had this to say:

I think public transit is a public good that benefits more than the people who ride it. When someone chooses to ride instead of drive their cars, congestion is reduced for people who are still using the roads. The need for parking in downtown is also reduced.

There are likely public and private investments (business, housing, transportation) which will follow station planning. Did Pizza Luce in hopkins just happen to locate adjacent to a future Blake Road LRT stop?

Because these purposes are public, I don't see why the revenues cannot be. Bonding dollars are used for state infrastructure and backing bonds with "taxes" isn't particularly wise (see recent stories about Vikings stadium gambling shortfalls).

I vote No, but not because LRT isn't getting "enough". Taxes won't be sufficient and benefits are much broader than any individual group of taxpayers.

Police: Shakopee Teens Seen Burglarizing Home

Witnesses called police after they saw two boys carrying a television from a house. When confronted, the boys had dropped the television and tried to hide.

Matt Lehman applauded the observant neighbors:

This is a perfect example of how the residents watching out for one another, being the eyes and ears for police, make our city better. Neighborhood watch is the best value for the money to make Shakopee safer. As a City Council Member, I commend these citizens for stepping up and watching out for the larger neighborhood, nice job!!!

Parent's Talk: Minneapolis Child Shooting Brings Up Questions

In the wake of a tragic accident in which a 2-year-old died from being shot by his 4-year-old brother, many concerns and questions come to mind for parents.

David F talked about the use of gun locks in household where guns are available:

Somebody should do a survey of how many people use gun locks and in particular households with children. When people tell me they own guns I always ask them if they have gun locks and few do. I talked to a former MN police chief who told me how many police officers get shot at gun ranges because they think their weapons are not loaded. He invented a simple gun lock that goes in the barrel of a gun so you can easily see if the gun is locked.


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barb June 19, 2013 at 11:01 am
The craft fair for this sat at Hopkins Activity Center has been cancelled more details in July.
James Warden (Editor) June 17, 2013 at 05:44 pm
For those who need some help dealing with coyotes, here are some tips from a national expert whoRead More visited the west metro in March: http://stlouispark.patch.com/groups/around-town/p/coyote-tips
Mike B. June 19, 2013 at 11:40 am
Coyotes are a welcome addition to the local landscape. I get a kick out of people who "run forRead More the hills" when they see these neat animals. Rarely, if ever, has a coyote attacked a human being.
Cathi Hansen June 18, 2013 at 01:13 pm
What area of Hopkins? That might help narrow down the area to look in....
Mary Ellen Dower June 8, 2013 at 10:48 am
I will be there too with knit baby sweaters, hats and ponchos! Mary Ellen Knits Gifts
Mary Ellen Dower June 8, 2013 at 11:13 am
And wool felted slippers too! Mary Ellen Knits Gifts
Orono June 7, 2013 at 02:29 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO This guy is closer to communist than he is to democrat.
Orono May 21, 2013 at 08:53 pm
Mike B. The liberal belief system puts the job of caring for the needy on the government. JesusRead More said, love thy neighbor as thy self. I do a very poor job of loving my neighbor but the one thing I do try and do is give back. My wife and I give between 15 and 17% every year. We have been blessed with financial success and try keep that in mind every day. Also though, we give ourselves. Giving yourself to a cause is better (in my opinion) than just giving money. We give money because we can, we give our time because we should. I have a few liberal friends working beside me for our causes but, in general, the majority of us are all conservatives. Mark Dayton is a classic example of how the liberal mind works. Give the government the money, let them deal with those losers.
Mike B. June 1, 2013 at 03:29 pm
The Democrats are 100% responsible for increasing poverty in the state. Dayton and his DemocratRead More lackeys and cronies are driving out all of the job producers in Minnesota with their socialist, anti-business policies.
Sue June 5, 2013 at 09:14 am
Consider this- the (unelected) Met Council controls everything from parks, to trails, to transit, toRead More waste water. If a city wants to do anything they have to work with the Met Council and one of the FAVORITE expectations is that cities ADD "AFFORDABLE" or - Section 8 housing. While the recession hit the suburbs hard - the biggest influx or poor - are the indigenous poor into free housing
mike savick June 9, 2013 at 09:46 am
"Mike B" continues to look in the mirror and post about others. Emails show the Mr.Read More Hindin offered to produce his Minnesota drivers license at any west metro police station. The compulsively dishonest Mike B thing declined.
Michael Hindin June 9, 2013 at 10:03 am
Mike B. posted June 8, 2013 at 08:58 pm "The best one can hope for is that the jewishRead More (sic)person and the muslim (sic) will tolerate one another. Hard to tell what side is most at fault. Can't say I trust either one.... neither has what we would call Western Civilization values. "......NEITHER HAS WHAT WE WOULD CALL WESTERN CIVILIZATION VALUES"??? (Capitalization for emphasis) Without the contributions of Jews and Arab Muslims you would be still in the Dark Ages worshiping golden cows and there wouldn't be your version of "western civilization" Do I really have to remind you of a Jewish carpenter. Bearing false witness is prohibited by all Abrahamic religions.
Corinne June 10, 2013 at 05:25 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_calling
Orono June 3, 2013 at 02:18 pm
I totally agree with both points. Republicans have zero business deciding social issues. Democrats,Read More as Mark Dayton just proved, have zero business deciding important adult decisions that deal with finances and taxes.
Dan Johnson June 12, 2013 at 07:07 pm
Orono. You seem to assume my on-line fight for equal rights is a reflection of my entire life. ItRead More isn't. I've missed a few days, as I was kayak camping, without electronics. It also seems you are repeating the mistake of comparing atrocities, and then dismissing as irrelevant the one that seems less severe. This misses the point that no atrocities are acceptable. As I have stated repeatedly, all religions, as well as non-religious belief systems, promote the Golden Rule. Different sects of all of those religions also find excuses to ignore it. No matter what the belief system claimed as an excuse for anti-gay prejudice, refusing to treat others as you would yourself is a violation of every major ethical belief system, as well as a violation of the promise of equality in our founding documents and required by the constitution. Any person who espouses any belief system that requires hating and harming others, has earned the label of "hater". Having a belief system is not a virtue when it requires harming others. Yet, again, not all prejudice requires hate. It may be a result of a lack of careful consideration of the information, or simply a distrust of others who seem different in some way.
Dan Johnson June 12, 2013 at 07:08 pm
Orono. You said: "I hate liberalism." We have stated you are free to hate if and as youRead More want. But neither you, me, nor MB should be allowed to use hate as a justification for refusing to treat others as you would yourself under the law. MB makes it clear, he would use the law to harm all gay people severely, based on his hate.
Dan Johnson June 12, 2013 at 07:28 pm
Donald. Again, you resort to mischaracterizing Joyce's comment in order to support your desire toRead More reinstate discrimination in the public square. Tyrannies result when discrimination based on your choice of being offended, is allowed under the law. This is the reason the Golden Rule is found in every major ethical belief system as well as a requirement of our system of government. Your desire to harm others based on your personal beliefs, does not extend to the public square. Again, segregation is only one of many examples of the atrocities that result when prejudice and discrimination are enshrined in the law. As you said yourself, the law is needed for protection of equal rights when someone is offended, not when they are not.
Susan June 9, 2013 at 07:25 pm
Mike B., you must really be bored if you had to come back to this... I attack the ideology andRead More people that want to decide for everyone how they should live their lives. You know, those who would condemn or persecute those wanting something different that, BTW, is granted to them by way of living in a free country. It's time to try some new material, Mike, this is really getting old and tired.
fb.com/WCwatchdog June 16, 2013 at 03:42 am
I ride a sport bike... can I also have 130 miles of track to ride on in Woodbury like the bikers?...Read More oh wait... that's right, I have to put my bike in my truck, drive 130 miles to the nearest track, pay $150 in track fees, just to ride... Bicyclists, you don't know how good you have it with your completely free paved bike paths.
Mike B. June 19, 2013 at 11:05 am
fb... you are correct... The Lance Armstrong-wannabes demand (they don't ask; they are that type ofRead More obnoxious people) that all taxpayers pay for bike paths at astronomical costs per mile.
Michael Hindin May 23, 2013 at 12:48 pm
Simple answer G Wright is that "Mike B" manufactures it. IT has PATCH history ofRead More compulsive dishonesty.
Michael Hindin May 23, 2013 at 01:02 pm
People in general have a very difficult time discussing race. I nave gone to interestingRead More presentations sponsored by the St Paul Foundation. (https://www.facingrace.org/) Good people who are trying to understand are often afraid of saying the wrong thing. It takes a lot of patience and tolerance to engage in this conversation. It is often difficult to realize that even though many of our generation did not set up the situation, there are still many advantages built into being in the racial majority and change is painful.
Dan Johnson June 4, 2013 at 10:23 am
The divide of race has been America's constant curse. Each new wave of immigrants gives new targetsRead More to old prejudices. Prejudice and contempt, cloaked in the pretense of religious or political conviction, are no different. They have nearly destroyed us in the past. They plague us still. They fuel the fanaticism of terror. They torment the lives of millions in fractured nations around the world. These obsessions cripple both those who are hated and, of course, those who hate, robbing both of what they might become.” Bill Clinton
rob_h78 April 16, 2013 at 10:56 pm
After reading the comment from "RP45241", I went to www.greatschools.com and looked upRead More Washburn High School vs Wayzata High School (that is in Plymouth) and was shocked. These kids really gotta study more and they need every minute possible to study - they literally cannot afford a minute of not being in a classroom learning. http://www.greatschools.org/minnesota/minneapolis/1320-Washburn-Senior-High-School/?tab=test-scores http://www.greatschools.org/minnesota/plymouth/2228-Wayzata-High-School/?tab=test-scores Just a few examples of percentage of students meeting\exceeding standards: Math: Washburn 41% Wayzata 81% State Average 58% Reading: Washburn: 67% Wayzata 94% State Average 77% Science: Washburn 40% Wayzata 77% State Average 52% Yikes!!!
Jim Flaherty April 17, 2013 at 12:10 pm
Shame on the school district. It seems that one person is under investigation for possible misdoingsRead More and a bunch of students protest the possibility of his termination by skipping school. When the Principal follows policy and marks the protesters records with an unexcused absence she gets reassigned (fired). What the school should have taught the students is that the person under investigation is in a Union and will most likely be fine unless that person really messed up. That the Principal is not in a Union and will most likely loss her job for doing the correct thing, because the union has more power than the school district. What a lesson to teach, do the wrong thing and get rewarded and do the right thing and get punished. Good job Washburn.
Heyitsme April 17, 2013 at 07:21 pm
Skipping is skipping and unexcused absences are unexcused absences; protest after or before school.Read More That is what we did. (on the public sidewalk, so the school couldn't say they are trespassing). We had a favorite bus driver that was fired by the school board for a really stupid reason (it has been over 30 years ago) and students were upset and we protested before and after school. If you were not where you were supposed to be by the time class started you were marked down as unexcused absence. Teachers have a job to do and students have a job to do. Free speech is still allowed but operate under the school (and state) education rules.